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CentOS 5 - First install
Just finished installing the first distro tree for what will become CentOS 5 x86_64. And I have to say this - it rocks! There are a lot of new features that are going to be loved by everyone out there. But first, a few words about what is going on.
Rather than just bang out the distro, which we could have done a few weeks back, we decided to work on the back end infrastructure for the distro first. Putting in place a distributed build system, package tracking, composer scripts, various means of build testing, build verification etc. And while we were doing this, we were using live centos-5-beta sources to prove the system works ( side note: so far, the tree has been rebuilt about 12 times, 3 times each on i386/x86_64 and 6 times on ppc/ppc64 ). So while the release has gotten delayed due to this extra work, I hope this pays off in the long term, with faster updates and a better tested release process.
Back to the issue of when is release going to happen ? The short answer is : when its ready. The long answer is : very soon now, but we want to release to a select few testers first. Once they give it the thumbs up, we'll make a public release available to everyone. If you want to get onto this list of testers, get in touch with one of the CentOS developers.
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Karanbir Singh {http://www.karan.org/}
28 comments
Comment from: linuxmasters [Visitor] 
Would love to be one of the testers for Centos 5.0
05/Jan/2007 @ 03:28
Comment from: Marcin Godlewski [Visitor]
Yeah, me too i would like to test it on sun v20z and v40z x86_64 and some laptop.
05/Jan/2007 @ 22:49
Comment from: edward Mann [Visitor]
Sign me up for the beta. I just built a new server and can test it out on it.
08/Jan/2007 @ 21:14
Comment from: Matt [Visitor]
You guys rock! Thank you for all the hard work.
One thing I would ask is that I would really appreciate weekly status posts to the CentOS list. I'm really, really looking forward to CentOS 5 and I don't want to be constantly nagging folks about it.
One thing I would ask is that I would really appreciate weekly status posts to the CentOS list. I'm really, really looking forward to CentOS 5 and I don't want to be constantly nagging folks about it.
10/Jan/2007 @ 21:24
Matt,
That sounds like a really good idea and along the lines of what I was thinking about. What I might do is instead, setup a rss feed somewhere that people could subscribe to and get some form of news on centos-5 status. And we might even be able to carry on with that feed in the future to keep people updated with developments etc.
Let me pass this idea around and see what the other developers think about it.
- KB
That sounds like a really good idea and along the lines of what I was thinking about. What I might do is instead, setup a rss feed somewhere that people could subscribe to and get some form of news on centos-5 status. And we might even be able to carry on with that feed in the future to keep people updated with developments etc.
Let me pass this idea around and see what the other developers think about it.
- KB
10/Jan/2007 @ 21:37
gimme gimme CentOS 5 :-D
more seriously I have installed FC6 here at work just waiting for the CentOS 5 to show up ... so I'm also interested in it!
more seriously I have installed FC6 here at work just waiting for the CentOS 5 to show up ... so I'm also interested in it!
11/Jan/2007 @ 11:53
Thanks for the info. I'm very interested in CentOS 5. I have some issues which seem to be resolved in kernel 2.6.18. I'm interested in testing as soon as you have something available.
\ Steve
\ Steve
11/Jan/2007 @ 16:58
Comment from: qstreb [Visitor]
Would like to try it too. Just build my new machine; its hungry for the 5th version.
Dont have the time to play with other distributions (not so happy with FC6 on my notebook).
Dont have the time to play with other distributions (not so happy with FC6 on my notebook).
12/Jan/2007 @ 07:26
Sign me up as volunteer to test CentOS 5 release! :)
Hardware includes but is not limited to HP Proliant 320 G4, Sun v20z, Dell 850, Dell SC1425, Lenovo x86_64 WS, Thinkpad T41/60.
Especially testing on Proliant would interest me/us.
Hardware includes but is not limited to HP Proliant 320 G4, Sun v20z, Dell 850, Dell SC1425, Lenovo x86_64 WS, Thinkpad T41/60.
Especially testing on Proliant would interest me/us.
14/Jan/2007 @ 17:46
We are running several varieties of Globus Toolkit on multiple Xen guests using a couple of CentOS 4.4 Xen hosts. And we're really anxious to start using Gfarm with FUSE on some of these guests.
So we'd really like to get out hands on CentOS 5 so we can get this happening. Can you please add me to the list of testers.
So we'd really like to get out hands on CentOS 5 so we can get this happening. Can you please add me to the list of testers.
15/Jan/2007 @ 08:59
Comment from: Mario Verbelen [Visitor]
I also would love to be one of the testers for Centos 5.0
I even would like to participate on the extras
ps, I will try to come on the FOSDEM event also
Mario,
I even would like to participate on the extras
ps, I will try to come on the FOSDEM event also
Mario,
16/Jan/2007 @ 08:36
Comment from: qstreb [Visitor]
Please include me in the test.
I can test on the following system:
CPU: intel core 2 duo (e6600)
mobo: G965
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DG965MQ/index.htm
and
Sun X4100 amd64
I can test on the following system:
CPU: intel core 2 duo (e6600)
mobo: G965
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DG965MQ/index.htm
and
Sun X4100 amd64
19/Jan/2007 @ 11:32
Comment from: Lukas-SVK [Visitor]
Please include me in the test too.
I can test on my box
HP Proliant ML150G3 Core 2 Duo
Luc
I can test on my box
HP Proliant ML150G3 Core 2 Duo
Luc
20/Jan/2007 @ 03:24
Comment from: qstreb [Visitor]
no idea about CentOS 5 alpha/beta (testing is somehow secret)
but RHEL 5 + Xen is not for productive environments, at least not in 64 bit on
CPU: intel core 2 duo (e6600), mobo: G965
but RHEL 5 + Xen is not for productive environments, at least not in 64 bit on
CPU: intel core 2 duo (e6600), mobo: G965
22/Jan/2007 @ 10:53
Do we have any idea yet about when the CentOS 5 Beta might become available?
23/Jan/2007 @ 03:05
qstreb,
there is nothing secret in the testing, and we've had no reason to consider centos5 unstable anywhere. Do you have some bugzilla numbers for your problems and what was done to fix them ?
so far where Xen is concerned, the el5 xen and tools included are perhaps the most stable and usable implementation in any distro yet
there is nothing secret in the testing, and we've had no reason to consider centos5 unstable anywhere. Do you have some bugzilla numbers for your problems and what was done to fix them ?
so far where Xen is concerned, the el5 xen and tools included are perhaps the most stable and usable implementation in any distro yet
23/Jan/2007 @ 09:42
Comment from: Franklin H. Chasen [Visitor]
I would like to be a beta tester. I built a box with BioStar TForce 550 motherboard and AMD A64 X2 4200+ CPU especially for Centos 5. I intend to use it as a PVR, home security, and general multimedia box (MythTV, Zone Minder). I would like to run my PCI security camera capture cards in a different Centos VM from my PCI TV tuner cards.
The box would not boot the first Fedora 6 xen kernels but finally is booting the 2.6.19-1.2895 xen kernel. I tried to install the Centos 4.4 Server CD under Fedora 6 xen but after the installation when I reboot the installation window closes and I can not start the Centos VM from xen.
The box would not boot the first Fedora 6 xen kernels but finally is booting the 2.6.19-1.2895 xen kernel. I tried to install the Centos 4.4 Server CD under Fedora 6 xen but after the installation when I reboot the installation window closes and I can not start the Centos VM from xen.
23/Jan/2007 @ 17:50
Bit late i know, but i'd like to do some testing! I have a range of bleeding edge new and stone age old server hardware.
Is it still looking like the end of the month for release (that was the last i saw on the lists)?
Cheers
Nick
Is it still looking like the end of the month for release (that was the last i saw on the lists)?
Cheers
Nick
23/Jan/2007 @ 18:51
Intersting - my limited playing around with Fedora 6 at home has been with somewhat limited successs - it gets stuck at "formating HDD..." - I wonder if Centos 5 would be any better. If you need a newbie guinea pig you know where to find me. :)
25/Jan/2007 @ 00:38
kb,
Is RHEL5/CentOS5 still including StarDict, as RHEL5 Beta1 Client Beta1 had?
http://stardict.sourceforge.net/ is a free, GPLed dictionary framework, _however_ most of the English and German dictionaries proposed for download are *illegally* databases stolen from Merriam-Webster's Collegiate, Oxford ALD, Longman DCE, Collins Cobuild, Duden, etc.
The Chinese guy who developed StarDict has no legal right to label as GPL anything else but the code, and I am worried that Red Hat has chosen to include StarDict (even with no databases) in RHEL5.
"Stealing" a codec is not a theft. Stealing a dictionary database *is*.
Is RHEL5/CentOS5 still including StarDict, as RHEL5 Beta1 Client Beta1 had?
http://stardict.sourceforge.net/ is a free, GPLed dictionary framework, _however_ most of the English and German dictionaries proposed for download are *illegally* databases stolen from Merriam-Webster's Collegiate, Oxford ALD, Longman DCE, Collins Cobuild, Duden, etc.
The Chinese guy who developed StarDict has no legal right to label as GPL anything else but the code, and I am worried that Red Hat has chosen to include StarDict (even with no databases) in RHEL5.
"Stealing" a codec is not a theft. Stealing a dictionary database *is*.
25/Jan/2007 @ 09:37
Comment from: qstreb [Visitor]
Hello,
with "secret" I joked a bit,I expected that middle Jan we will have an alpha version, at least to get used on it.
There is absolutely no announce from the centos - when, what & so on, even no invitation for the users to start test the betas from the RH.
"unstable", just in regards of xen(virtualization)
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-5-manual/release-notes/RELEASE-NOTES-x86_64-en.html
I had some additional small glitches except in the Known Issues, but I believe they will be correct by the time Final arrive.
I didn't succeed to install 64bit windows for example.
The Red Hat Enterprise "Linux Virtualization Platform" was actually "Cluster Platform" :p even no shadow from Xen.
About XEN:
I agree that "the el5 xen and tools included are perhaps the most stable and usable implementation in any distro yet", but its just not enough.
Most of the people ignored this statement http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/01/redhat_yes_xen/.
6 months ago - RH: "We believe the Xen project is not currently stable enough for production deployment."
I am really pleased with what RH are currently doing for the Xen development and RH/CentOS (work/private) is my choice when going Xen.
I believe 5.1 will be the real Xen RH ;)
Xen 3.0.5, the new libvirt and the RH virt console look really promising.
Best Regards
with "secret" I joked a bit,I expected that middle Jan we will have an alpha version, at least to get used on it.
There is absolutely no announce from the centos - when, what & so on, even no invitation for the users to start test the betas from the RH.
"unstable", just in regards of xen(virtualization)
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-5-manual/release-notes/RELEASE-NOTES-x86_64-en.html
I had some additional small glitches except in the Known Issues, but I believe they will be correct by the time Final arrive.
I didn't succeed to install 64bit windows for example.
The Red Hat Enterprise "Linux Virtualization Platform" was actually "Cluster Platform" :p even no shadow from Xen.
About XEN:
I agree that "the el5 xen and tools included are perhaps the most stable and usable implementation in any distro yet", but its just not enough.
Most of the people ignored this statement http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/01/redhat_yes_xen/.
6 months ago - RH: "We believe the Xen project is not currently stable enough for production deployment."
I am really pleased with what RH are currently doing for the Xen development and RH/CentOS (work/private) is my choice when going Xen.
I believe 5.1 will be the real Xen RH ;)
Xen 3.0.5, the new libvirt and the RH virt console look really promising.
Best Regards
25/Jan/2007 @ 15:13
Comment from: Petter [Visitor]
Hello, I would also like to test Centos5 on my Dell WS450 and 2 noname servers, one duron 1200, and one dual p3 1000mhz... :) Centos3 and 4 was nice, and Im looking forward to test Centos 5.
02/Feb/2007 @ 22:26
I'm really looking for a way to avoid installing FC6 to get the newer Xen kernels. Really looking forward to a beta as I just took my Xen box out of production due to incompatibility between my MCP51 sata_nv drivers and the Xen 3 2.6.16 kernels. I really want a newer kernel with better driver support.
03/Feb/2007 @ 07:08
Comment from: Keith S. [Visitor]
I'm dying for CentOS 5 as well. Are there any updates you can give us on its status?
07/Feb/2007 @ 23:36
Comment from: Will Tatam [Visitor]
What's happened, it sounded like a public beta was just about to be released at the start of jan and 6 weeks later still no update
16/Feb/2007 @ 14:31
Am looking forward to release of CentOS5 so I can run CentOS guests on my FC6 xen host.
Would be happy to test pre-release.
I have both x86_64 and i386 envirnoments available.
R.
Would be happy to test pre-release.
I have both x86_64 and i386 envirnoments available.
R.
22/Feb/2007 @ 17:44
Guys, There has been an announcement made on the centos-devel list ( http://lists.centos.org/ ) asking for people to come and help with the QA process ( that does not mean that you will get access to centos-5 before everyone else, it means you get the chance to be involved with the qa process. ). Look there for more info and track the site http://beta.centos.org/ for the actual testing distro
22/Feb/2007 @ 17:53
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