ISP outage - Bethere

by Karanbir Singh Email

I've been forced-offline the last two days, my ISP - bethere.co.uk seems to have had a problem in the SE london area, and that means no IP down the line for users.

Getting through to their customer services seems to be a challenge too - calling their special members hotine at 0808 101 3430 just results in a dropped call. No ringing, nothing to say lines are busy or anything, just a dropped call. After trying for about 30 min, I got through and guess what : their customer support people are only saying 'there is a problem, we dont know what the problem is and we dont know if and when its going to get resolved'.

One thing he did mention was that the status is being updated on the members website, so everyone should look there. It took me about 5 minutes to explain to the moron that getting to the website was a challenge if the isp is what was down. Where do they find these people ? Some eastern european guy sitting in what sounded like his kitchen with the blender on in the background.

I've now managed to get a dialup link mobilephone->mobilephone that I have in the DC to get into my servers if the main front link goes down - and at 4800bps its not the most usable link for much else - but I am able to get to the bethere website, and get into the members area. The funny thing is, they just seem to think the problem will get resolved in a few hours, then keep extending that time. It was at midday yesterday that the problem was expected to get resolved. Then it became evening, then late night, then early this morning, then just after two pm today, now its just before seven pm. Lets see when it really does get resolved.

Oh well, I guess thats the state of ISPs. And these guys are supposed to be one of the better ones. I wonder why competence is such an elusive trait in the business.

9 comments

Comment from: Ismael Juma [Visitor] · http://blog.juma.me.uk
Hi,

Maybe related to:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3924-major-cable-cut-in-east-london-tunnel.html

I am also a Be Broadband customer, but I am in South London and have had no issues.

Regarding customer support, I've had a very good experience so far in the few times I had to get in touch with them (when I moved homes for example).

Best,
Ismael
05/Apr/2009 @ 06:09
Comment from: Karanbir Singh [Member] Email · http://www.karan.org/
Ismael,

Maybe it is related to that issue - but I would expect them to atleast give some form of info like this. After all the only service that a customer is going to buy from them is connectivity.

The date for end to this is now extended to 6th April half six pm'ish. Lets see how that works out.

Btw from their website :
Please note: There is unplanned outage in Crayford, Swanley, Farningham, Dartford, Longfield, Woolwich & Kidbrooke areas


I guess your link is not to / through one of those exchanges.
05/Apr/2009 @ 11:33
Comment from: Ismael Juma [Visitor] · http://blog.juma.me.uk
"Maybe it is related to that issue - but I would expect them to atleast give some form of info like this."

Definitely. I just happened to read that link a few minutes before I saw your blog entry and thought it might be useful. And the bit about my experiences was just as a an additional data point.

Ismael
05/Apr/2009 @ 14:07
Comment from: Ian [Visitor]
http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/news/generalbriefings/gen02709.do
05/Apr/2009 @ 15:34
Comment from: Leszek Strzala [Visitor]
"Some eastern european guy sitting in what sounded like his kitchen with the blender on in the background"

Have you ever been in Eastern Europe ? Do you know anything about this part of EUROPE that gives you rights to write such things ?
I can promise you we started with Linux, Open Source and staff like that many many years before you even has heard rumours about it. I can tell you a bunch of stories about people from India I talked with and tried to get explanation to my problem and getting nothing, so open your eyes man and don't insuite people you have no idea about.
07/Apr/2009 @ 09:02
Comment from: Karanbir Singh [Member] Email · http://www.karan.org/
Leszek,

No, I've not been to Eastern Europe as yet, I would love to though. Not sure what you are getting upset about. The person I spoke to on the phone had a loud noise in the background that sounded like a kitchen blender.

Also, visiting eastern europe isnt, hopefully, a requirement to use the Be ISP in the UK: or am I missing something here ?
07/Apr/2009 @ 15:21
Comment from: Leszek Strzala [Visitor]
OK, being in Eastern Europe isn't a must to be ISP in UK. Maybe I didn't understand your intention to the end, I've just felt that you meant being an Eastern Europe citizen is equal to no understanding basic things you have written about. So, if it was not a case, just sorry.
08/Apr/2009 @ 00:48
Comment from: Dudes [Visitor]
I have been informed by Be that tomorrow I have a 6 1/2 hour outage (South Oxford). I tried to phone customer services, and yes, I can confirm I spoke to East Europeans, and yes they do sound like they operate from their kitchen.

No, I haven't been to Eastern Europe, so I dont know if they do use Linux in their kitchens.

Have you been to India Leszek Strzala?
15/Apr/2009 @ 15:03
Comment from: be [Visitor] · http://www.bethere.co.uk
You all think you have problems. Try being a reseller and having to wait in queues and get the uk op directors answer phone when you have several thousand connections, that's the thanks you get. When it's fast, be (o2 with some leftover morals) is fast... but when it goes wrong, it goes very wrong, and bt interconnect is nearly always blamed, alongside the "-lm sorry but we don't know when, or how it'll be fixed" in a noisy compressed, cisco voip trunk, plus kitchen blender style sound.... I wonder why we are migrating customers to tiscali llu...
15/Apr/2009 @ 19:57

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